Monday, October 21, 2024

CW contesting cut short.

 


 This weekend was the WAG (Worked All Germany) contest which I entered CW low power and unassisted. About 10 minutes into the contest things started to unravel, I was on 10m calling CQ TEST when my contest software (N1MM+) had the contact log window turn black. It came back to normal within an instant but that is never a good sign. Next, I pressed my F1 key to send CQ TEST again and it did not respond, I pressed it again and nothing. Then all of a sudden the rig keyed and the macro started to send...twice. Then the issues got worse as when I had a station come back to me and I responded with my exchange the macro would not send right away. It was very confusing to the answering station and as he sent his call again, it was then my exchange macro decided to send. 


It was time to shut down and get things sorted out. I  have had this issue in the past and thought I figured it out. In the past, my wired Lanovo mechanical keyboard was picking up RFI and causing me problems. I was looking for a fast fix and added some mix  31 toroids to where the cable enters the keyboard. I now have toroids at either end of the keyboard cable. 


I then fired up the contest software and called CQ TEST again on 10m. For over an hour, I  had no issues and hoped I had fixed the issue. This was the first time this issue had ever shown up on 10m in the past it has always been just  20m but of course now that I am contesting "MR RFI" changes things up.  Heading up to 20m and again while calling CQ TEST I had the N1MM+ contest log window go black again. It was time once again to shut things down as I couldn't contest in this situation. 


As I sat there and went over things I knew in the past I had had issues with my wired mouse, I went wireless and the problem was solved. Maybe it was time to go with a wireless keyboard? I have a Logitech K830 hanging around and thought I would put that into service and see what happens. Of course, the keyboard's rechargeable battery was dead and needed about an hour of charge time before I could use it. That gave me time to label the keyboard and look up the instructions on how to pair it. 

Logi wireless keyboard.


I was up and running again with the wireless keyboard and things were working just fine! This is a much smaller keyboard and I found myself hitting macro F keys when I was supposed to be hitting numbers. This also is not a mechanical key-type keyboard. I tend to be heavy-handed while my hands are resting on the keyboard waiting for the  CQ TEST macro to finish. The keyboard was so sensitive by mistake that I would type letters into N1MM+ call box. When this happened my CQ macro stopped (as it should) I had to lighten up my heavy hands while I was using this keyboard. 


While waiting for the keyboard to charge I made my way to Amazon and ordered a full-size mechanical keyboard. I was sure this was the solution to the issue and so far I was right. It was getting more toward evening and 40m looked like it was hopping. When I pressed my F1 CQ key my N1MM+ , Win4icom  radio control software and the web page I had open all disappeared! With everything restarted I tried again with the same results, it was time to pull the plug and think about things over the evening. The wireless keyboard was not the answer. It was time to get back onto Amazon and cancel the keyboard order.

Winkeyer with ground lead to main ground bus


As the wheels in my head started to turn when using the wired keyboard the only program that was ever affected was N1MM+  and not Win4icom radio control software or the webpages I had open, it was always just N1MM+. When I started to use  Win4icom radio control software along with N1MM+ I needed to purchase a  Winkeyer USB unit for the CW macros in N1MM+ to work properly. The  Winkeyer is directly involved with the sending of code and it's part of the chain I have not paid any attention to. All outgoing cables had  31mix toroids on them BUT I realized the unit was not connected to the station ground. On Sunday morning I opened the Winkeyer and connected a station ground wire to one of the PC board mounting screws. 


I  began contesting and all was good on all bands, my fingers are crossed  BUT I have had this false hope in the past. Today (Monday) I have my weekly Medium Speed Contest (MST) in the morning and afternoon. It will be a good test to see if the issue has been fixed.
Also, I posted my issue on the Groups.io N1MM+ site and had some excellent feedback.  One common thread was the USB outer metal shell on the PC. I was told most of the time they are floating and not grounded and this can cause issues. I have a lot of USB cables connected to my PC for radio-related things. I was given a very good idea on how to ground them but more on that in another post. 

UPDATE: This morning and this afternoon I took part in the MST contest and called CQ on all bands without any issues. Maybe I have the RFI issue solved. BUT in the past I have done the happy dance to only be greeted with RFI....so we are keeping this celebration very low key. 


4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hello Mike, I had a lot of RFI issues in the past when using the Icom IC-706MK2G with all kind of USB CAT and soundmodems connected. It is indeed something that can be difficult to solve, also my experience. I've never had any issues using the IC-7300. I really don't know why you use a external keyer? The Icom IC-7610 has a keyer on board and N1MM+ can access it using the proper commands in my opinion. 73, Bas PE4BAS

VE9KK said...

Good morning Bas, very good question regarding the internal keyer on the 7610. You are correct it is a great keyer that is on board the IC7610 BUT for some reason when I pair N1MM+ and the radio control program Win4icom the N1MM+ contest macros will not work unless you use the Winkeyer USB (or something similar). Now you may ask why not just not use the Win4icom software? This software is a huge advantage when I am contesting. For example I set up each band with a series of macro commands. On some bands the NB is on and others not same with Digi select. The 7610 does not remember the RF gain setting per band but I can do that with a macro. During contesting when I change bands everything is setup.
Also filter settings are fast mouse clicks and not diving into windows. Along with many other things that help my contesting. So that is why I use the Winkeyer.
73 and have a good week Bas
Mike
VE9KK

PE4BAS, Bas said...

Hello Mike, yes if you use win4icom (I guess from what I read it does CAT control) you cannot use the internal keyer at the same time. Have you tried to split com ports with for example VPSE? 73, Bas

VE9KK said...

Good morning Bas, I am using a VPSE which allows me to connect other programs to Win4icom. I did trade emails back and forth with VA2FSQ from Win4icom regarding the issue of communication between these programs. He told me it had something to do with the coding of N1MM+ and the only solution was to use Winkeyer so allow communication.
73,
Mike
VE9KK